Topic: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

If you're not familiar with the terms:

CCCless = Collecting all stars possible without using caps, cannons, or collecting any coins.
CCless = Collecting all stars possible without using caps or cannons.
Cless = Collecting all stars possible without collecting any coins.

I've started these challenges by making a CCCless file. So far, I've managed to collect 66 stars. There are some things I would like to point out though. I found out that once you unlock the Replica Stars, it unlocks them for all 4 game files, not just the one you're playing on. My question to you guys is: Should we be allowed to collect them for these challenges (provided you follow the rules for each respective category) if they're already unlocked? Another issue is that at this point in time, you need to use a cannon to get to the final area of the overworld. Obviously that won't affect coinless runs, but it will affect the other 2 categories. So we need to find a way around that. I assume it's possible with TAS, but let's try to think of ways to make it doable non-TAS as well! Here's some problems I've encountered while trying to collect stars:

In course 5, Gloomy Garden, there are coins surrounding the gravestone, so it is not able to be pushed. Thus, only 2 stars are collectible at the moment. Perhaps there is a BLJ somewhere that can go through the cage where the pipe is.

In course 12, Cloudrail Station, I'm having issues with 2 of the stars; Fluffy Castle Climb and The Frozen Cloud. According to SM64 CCC rules, you ARE NOT allowed to collect ANY caps. However, in Fluffy Castle Climb, you "need" the wing cap boxes activated to climb up them. You do not actually collect a cap at any point. With TASing, you can actually just BLJ to the star from the long elevator ride as it's heading upward. For The Frozen Cloud, it is possible with TAS as well. I *almost* got to the blue/white platform with a BLJ on the elevator non-TAS, but it's very difficult and requires some seriously lucky timing and button mashing. So for the first one, I haven't collected it yet (don't know if I should hit the wing cap switch), but it is possible rather easily without a cap, cannon, or coins, and for the second one, the TAS method I linked *might* be possible non-TAS, but very difficult to do in real time.

All of the other stars  through course 13 that do not involve red coins or 100 coins are doable CCCless.

I'm also having a problem with secret stars, specifically MIPS. You can BLJ on the bridge and get into that little boxed area fairly easily with TAS, but I haven't been able to (or even come close) in real time.

Once I'm confident about the amount of CCCless stars collected, I will copy that file twice and move onto Cless or CCless.

If you have any questions about collecting certain stars or anything else related to the challenges, post them here! cool

Edit: I got The Frozen Cloud with Rene's method non-TAS! That's 67!!

Edit 2: I'm going to go keep looking for a way to get Fluffy Castle Climb without the wing cap boxes. If I can't find one soon, I'll probably go ahead and press the switch.

Conor says (12:05 PM):
Location ---> BitFS (Cage)
People -----> SS & SP
Kinky objects ---> Icecubes and a ferret
Fantasies ---> Wet hair.

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

I think that you can't even step on the switch like on SM64, because it will be then against the CC rules. Even though you didn't collect a cap from these activated blocks, you violate rules of CC.
About Replica Stars , I am not sure. In original game there were only normal stars so we just avoided coins, cannons, caps and collected other stars that are possible with CCC rules.
IMO you should just collect normal stars, since if person starts the new file without having 130 stars, these Star Replicas won't be there. So, let's skip them for now and think about it a bit later.
What to say about accessing forth overworld, I don't know any non-tas method to skip it.
Maybe this hack will be the only one where you can use that cannon, and only this one.
But you can't use cannons by CC rules.
Also there is no any secret warp where we can warp to forth overworld and skip using cannon.

So, possibly this category won't be done by non-tas finishing the game.

But I hope to find at least some bug that will make Mario warp to that place where you shoot with cannon smile

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Twitter

Working on SM64 Twisted Adventures 2 and Intense Challenge (2 SM64 hacks). Visit my website for more information.

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

For just Cless, you can BLJ/P-BLJ right here to the area of the star in Bowser's Rainbow Rumble. It isn't very difficult non-TAS.
http://i.imgur.com/W2MK8.jpg?1?7783

Conor says (12:05 PM):
Location ---> BitFS (Cage)
People -----> SS & SP
Kinky objects ---> Icecubes and a ferret
Fantasies ---> Wet hair.

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

This isn't too hard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kkiVnfV9vY

Nice find by itsPersonnal. That makes 68 CCCless stars so far.

Conor says (12:05 PM):
Location ---> BitFS (Cage)
People -----> SS & SP
Kinky objects ---> Icecubes and a ferret
Fantasies ---> Wet hair.

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

big_smile

Conor says (12:05 PM):
Location ---> BitFS (Cage)
People -----> SS & SP
Kinky objects ---> Icecubes and a ferret
Fantasies ---> Wet hair.

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD3yVb0__wQ#t=45s

Conor says (12:05 PM):
Location ---> BitFS (Cage)
People -----> SS & SP
Kinky objects ---> Icecubes and a ferret
Fantasies ---> Wet hair.

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

I have decided to make a walkthrough of Star Road with CCCless star rules
You can check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSTTGzQY … plpp_video

There are only two stars I haven't managed to get at the moment. They are Fluffy Castle Climb and The Frozen Cloud. As soon as I will be able to collect one of these stars, I will update my walkthrough playlist. wink

Also is the last star of Fatal Flame Falls possible with CCCless rules? I think it is, but I haven't managed to do it, there is some slope on volcano that prevents you from climibng to the star.

And soon, there will be a SM74 CCCless walkthrough uploade on my channel (off-topic...), so be sure to check my channel out soon for this walkthrough. smile

Website | YouTube | Facebook | Twitter

Working on SM64 Twisted Adventures 2 and Intense Challenge (2 SM64 hacks). Visit my website for more information.

8 (edited by Kazeshin 2013-01-31 14:39:45)

Re: CCCless/CCless/Cless Star Road Runs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08M2J48kYU
frozen cloud. very easy non tas;

Jesus loves SM64.

Thumbs up